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14 comments:
Here tis Roger & you thought
it was only four dollars
(must have had the wrong agent)
It would bring much more moolah
from some omline auction site
Evy Kelly was framing & selling
cancelled Emmett checks in a
glitzy shop on St Armand's Circle
I received 500.00 from the Merv Griffin Show in 1984,( I didn't object because I was assured Tom Jones received the same) and 350.99 from the Beyond Reason show in Canada a few years earlier in 1989(again if it was good enough for Victor Borge it was alright by me.) I did Those Amazing Animals twice, once with the tigers and once with the elephants and received 250.00 each time(that was more then sufficient compensation as Priscilla Presley touched my leg twice during the interview segment.) Nationwide free publicity is great for the artist promoting a concert tour, movie, or new book as they reap the benefits. Not so much for the circus artist, benefactor being the show. Let's not lose sight of the real show business bandits........
Wade Burck
Clearly this check was not
for the actual performance
but a small "residual" for
the work from long long ago
Kenny Dodd received small
checks for many years for
the Rice Krispie filming
as did many others
You never get paid for an appearance. You do it for free for the publicity to promote your book, movie, concert tour etc. etc. and glad to do it, doing as many as possible because you the actor, performer, author are the recipient of ticket sales, or the host is your personal friend and you just do it to help his ratings. Everybody is paid the same regardless of who you are. It is called "scale" by the Screen Actors Guild. You are never paid for any performing you may do. At least none that I ever heard of. I believe being a member of the Screen Actors Guild depends upon you receiving "residuals"
Wade Burck
Television appearances for
most shows do pay that set
"scale" by AFTRA not SAG
Wade even if you belong
to more than one Union
Many performing folks do
belong to few including
AGVA (Variety Artists)
AGMA (Musical Artists)
AFTRA (Television & Radio)
AFofM (Musicians)
SAG (Screen Actors Guild)
& those of us fortunate
to belong to the "IATSE"
What was the union Ringling voted their show out of in 82-82? I have never been a fan of unions, becoming less of a fan when we were taping Those Amazing Animals and I had one chance to practice before the live show. Doing a performance on a small sound stage, surrounded closely by screaming, yelling people with 17 tigers was no small feat and I felt at least one practice was necessary. Just before starting I pulled out the electric cord for the electric pyramid that is so despised and before I could plug it into the wall socket I was informed that I was not allowed to do that, and only a "union electrician" was authorized to plug it in. We were told it would take one hour for one to arrive not giving us time to practice. John Cuneo in his diplomatic style informed the stage manager that he had been plugging it in for 8 year's and that the union could go f**K it's self, and we practiced. During the live performance the "union electrician" who had finally arrived shut the power to the outlet off and I had to lift the pyramid by hand(still available on video). I had many, many similar experience over they year's in building and colloquiums around the US when getting ready to practice early in the morning and being told I could not flip the switch, as it was a union job and I wasn't union. I could never get those clown's to understand that an animal trainer's life is not 9 to 5, paid day's off, time and a half, etc. etc. and sometimes we had to work longer and harder just to get a good job done. Just my opinion, but you can have a union.........
Wade Burck
Had the same experience at the Javits Center in NYC. Also noticed it took two people to wheel the trash can around.
Any time we did publicity for the Ringling show Judy and I were paid, IF the show was receiving any payments. Thank you Kenneth !
When the Beatty Show did that
disastrous NY Christmas date
Tommy Clarke became friends
with a few of the stagehands
in the old New York Coliseum
Some years later when he left
the circus he was inducted
into that special division
of the "convention" stagehands
where he worked until retirement
They seem to have more unusual
rules & demands than Local 1
The union that had represented
Ringling's performers for years
was AGVA that Feld got rid of
John Ringling through his RR
involvements was able to have
his own special local of the
Teamsters Union to cover working
men when they played in strong
union towns & cities
Greetings Mr. Lee, I am curious. What type of publicity would Ringling be paid for, other then their own commercially available video's such as the Tampa tv special or the later produced "A day in the life of" video's that Kenneth released. I have never heard of a tv, radio, or newspaper paying someone to appear in their format and paying them for it. The promotional dept. normally begged on bended knee for any opportunity for a shot at any format.
Chic, Clyde Bros. ringmaster Lucky Laribee, upon retirement became a union electrician, or sound, I am not sure which, at the union building in Ft. Meyers, Fla.
Bob, whenever you noticed two groom's cleaning up behind the elephant's, with one sweeping and one holding the shovel you inquired of them "which local are you guy's members of?"
Wade Burck
This is off subject, but John Cuneo had a "unique" way of compensating for anything done above or beyond contracted duties. Often time's if you had law off time the show you were contracted to would get a request for the use of the animals, example in 78 a movie company contacted the show to hire the elephants for a Woody Allen movie. After completing the last show I drove through the night in a blinding rain storm to get to the beach in Sandy Hook< N.J. in time for the scheduled shoot at 8:00AM. The producer of the circus was given 10% of the top for answering the phone when the production company called, then the total of all expenses were deducted of the remaining amount and I was given 10% of that amount. John, in his childish naivete was actually hurt when I objected. People working for him, or that he dealt with were just "serf's on the estate." For all the opinions about John Cuneo from folk's who were on the outside looking in, in all the many years I worked for him I don't feel he ever did anything, or made any decision, out of spite or cruelty(like a number of producers I won't name). For all the dumb, insane thing's he is noted for I came to accept he just didn't know any better, growing up as "Little Lord Fauntleroy" he never ever could do anything wrong, or have to accept responsibility for his actions. Folk's might come to the same conclusion if they spoke with past classmates, teachers, Libertyville community service employee's, etc. etc. The only "real" friend he ever had(not the hangers on now) that would tell him what to do or not do(actually knocked the shit out him once) was Old Whitey who was stable manager of Hawthorn Farms horse operation, where John spent most of his time. When Old Whitey died, to quote Herta, "we thought we were going to have to hospitalize John. He wouldn't get out of bed for a week he was so devastated." When the Hawthorn Farms stable was destroyed in a fire, John gave Old Whitey a beautiful house to live in on the estate, so he could talk with, and hang out with him every day.
Wade Burck
Wade Burck
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