Thursday, May 29, 2014

More Lewis Bros. #5


"I'll let someone else date this one!
A pretty nifty arrangement."
Buckles

25 comments:

Chic Silber said...


That Cornbinder Loadstar 1890 is

likely from the 60s (I had 2)

IH were the easiest trucks to

work on & had many parts that

were common to many models

Chic Silber said...


Can't quite tell if that's some

sort of Bobcat style loader on

the space behind the cab

Chic Silber said...


"Bobcats" were the earliest type

of "skid steer" utility vehicles

Originally from The Melroe Co

ownership changed many times &

now are part of Dusan of Korea

Either wheeled or tracked they

have no steering gear & although

very strong & versatile they are

no match for an elephant

4pawfan said...

I bet this truck was fun to drive if the canvas was soaking wet. All that weight behind the axle isn't good.
You can see the power take off shaft at the back, under the spool, which means it ran under the axle housing. That too would have been a nightmare to service with maybe 14'-16' of shaft going from the power take-off on side of the transmission. (if you look at the center of the rear wheel, it appears then the the power take off shaft is under the axle housing) It would have needed lots of hangers to support it and to keep it fromm flexing.
Would have been better to put the spool behind the cab for a short run for the power take-off shaft. Could have then just made a deck with a dovetail at the rear to load the bobcat after the canvas was spooled on.
p.j.

Chic Silber said...


I'd love to know the history of

the truck mounted canvas spools

I'll bet just like other circus

history there are a few versions

Chic Silber said...


That skid steer loader was a real

heavy weight as well PJ

Buckles said...

This particular version was perfected at the Wayne Sanguin Machine Shop in Hugo, Oklahoma. in the late 1940's.

Chic Silber said...


Did Big Bertha ever spool canvas

Buckles said...

Also the metal globes that the elephants rolled.
Wayne had the Choctaw County Surveyor mark out oblique dimensions on a sheet of corrugated metal which was then welded into a perfect circle.

Buckles said...

And I might add the Woodcock elephant tubs that Chic so much admires.

Chic Silber said...


So it seems that your father had

3 of them built of which 2 guard

the entry of "Mercy Acres" & the

other likely in some fan's yard

or left to the elements in Hugo

Buckles said...

No I left it at Mack,s place when we went on the road with the Polack Show.
That explains how he had it in the Hanneford picture years later.

Chic Silber said...


It makes me absolutely crazy that

the stage managers at the Music

Box Theater in NY where "Pippin"

is playing have continued to use

the term "stools" for the tubs

no matter how many times I've

explained the error to them

Jim Elliot might get confused on

a dual show lot with the term

that is also used for many types

of ride seating (just kidding)

Chic Silber said...


I read that the other day but I

never knew where Mack's place was

Wrongly assumed it was Hugo

Chic Silber said...


Maybe somebody might look for it

on eeeebay or Craig's long list

Buckles said...

Wayne Sanguin and D.R were big buddies and would often take trips together when D.R. bought his first air plane.
They once took off for Miami to see the Sooners play in the Orange Bowl but half way across the Gulf of Mexico got fogged in.
D.R., never a true believer in the instrument panel, dropped down too low and actually bounced off the water before continuing on.
On arrival Wayne immediately took a Taxi to the nearest Bus Station and returned home without even seeing the football game.

Buckles said...

Wayne Sanguin and D.R were big buddies and would often take trips together when D.R. bought his first air plane.
They once took off for Miami to see the Sooners play in the Orange Bowl but half way across the Gulf of Mexico got fogged in.
D.R., never a true believer in the instrument panel, dropped down too low and actually bounced off the water before continuing on.
On arrival Wayne immediately took a Taxi to the nearest Bus Station and returned home without even seeing the football game.

Buckles said...

Wayne Sanguin and D.R were big buddies and would often take trips together when D.R. bought his first air plane.
They once took off for Miami to see the Sooners play in the Orange Bowl but half way across the Gulf of Mexico got fogged in.
D.R., never a true believer in the instrument panel, dropped down too low and actually bounced off the water before continuing on.
On arrival Wayne immediately took a Taxi to the nearest Bus Station and returned home without even seeing the football game.

Buckles said...

Wayne Sanguin and D.R were big buddies and would often take trips together when D.R. bought his first air plane.
They once took off for Miami to see the Sooners play in the Orange Bowl but half way across the Gulf of Mexico got fogged in.
D.R., never a true believer in the instrument panel, dropped down too low and actually bounced off the water before continuing on.
On arrival Wayne immediately took a Taxi to the nearest Bus Station and returned home without even seeing the football game.

Buckles said...

Wayne Sanguin and D.R were big buddies and would often take trips together when D.R. bought his first air plane.
They once took off for Miami to see the Sooners play in the Orange Bowl but half way across the Gulf of Mexico got fogged in.
D.R., never a true believer in the instrument panel, dropped down too low and actually bounced off the water before continuing on.
On arrival Wayne immediately took a Taxi to the nearest Bus Station and returned home without even seeing the football game.

Buckles said...

Wayne Sanguin and D.R were big buddies and would often take trips together when D.R. bought his first air plane.
They once took off for Miami to see the Sooners play in the Orange Bowl but half way across the Gulf of Mexico got fogged in.
D.R., never a true believer in the instrument panel, dropped down too low and actually bounced off the water before continuing on.
On arrival Wayne immediately took a Taxi to the nearest Bus Station and returned home without even seeing the football game.

Buckles said...

Wayne Sanguin and D.R were big buddies and would often take trips together when D.R. bought his first air plane.
They once took off for Miami to see the Sooners play in the Orange Bowl but half way across the Gulf of Mexico got fogged in.
D.R., never a true believer in the instrument panel, dropped down too low and actually bounced off the water before continuing on.
On arrival Wayne immediately took a Taxi to the nearest Bus Station and returned home without even seeing the football game.

Chic Silber said...


I heard you the 1st time Pal

Take your finger off the button

4pawfan said...

Can't tell age or type of Bobcat.
Early ones with only 500lb cap. were about 2000lbs and the ones in the early 70's with the 1000lb cap. were some what under 4000lbs.
And these were all the 30hp gas bobcats.
The 1500 cap. diesel bobcats with about 38hp did get close to the 6000lb mark. Came out in 74 or 75 maybe?? Can tell them a part because the diesel bobcats use a radiator for cooling and the early gas models are air cooled.
Again, I can't tell much about the one in the photo.
p.j.

Chic Silber said...


I'll ask my brother Larry who was

the president of the IR division

that owned "Bobcat" up until they

sold that division to Dusan Korea

He went over to aid in transition

but only stayed with them a year

He climbed the corporate ladder

with Ingersol Rand starting from

his college graduation & ending

up as a senior corp president

All of my brothers have had major

professional accomplishments but

I've had more fun as a show bum