Thursday, November 14, 2019



Chic Silber said...

Long before Irvin & his daughter

became totally estranged this punk

was named Karen

Liz (Green) Dane said...

Can anyone tell me more about "Karen"? Was she imported or born in this country? How old would she have been when this picture was taken? The reason I"m curious is because my Dad, Bill Green, has always told me that "Queenie" was the youngest/smallest elephant ever to be imported and survive (at least prior to October, 1953). Queenie was 32" high and weighed 250 lbs. Little Karen looks to be about that size as well. Maybe the "P.T. Barnum" was coming out in my Dad when he used to make that claim.
Thanks - Liz (Green) Dane

Chic Silber said...

This "Karen" was born in Thailand

in 1969 & this photo was likely

to have been from early 70s in

the Venice Winter Quarters

She was on Ringling Blue through

2012 & then went to the Ringling

"Polk Pachy Park" until 2016

& then went to the San Diego Zoo

She remains there today at 50

Chic Silber said...

Barbara has claimed that her "Stella"

was also a much too young import that

she bottle fed with her own concotion

for many months (check with her Liz)

I'll ask her when I see the family

in Ruskin after I get back from NY

I have many photos of Stella

Chic Silber said...

I know it's hard to imagine

Liz that your dad wasn't

spouting gospel but recall

what business we are in

Chic Silber said...

This is Hugo Schmitt with her

Chic Silber said...

I believe that Karen also was from Trefflich's

after they moved to West Broadway from Fulton