Tuesday, May 10, 2011

From Jim Elliott #2


05-09-2011 11;30;43AM, originally uploaded by bucklesw1.

Posted by Buckles at 5/10/2011 05:52:00 AM

6 comments:

Bob Cline said...

The Loading Length is written below the wagon number in some of these photos. I remember being told that this was only done one year so that makes dating the photos fairly easy.

What year was this done? 1941?
Bob

10 May, 2011 06:49
Anonymous said...

Bob,
This was done in 1946. This Koford set is of the 1946 show.
Ringling did however put the loading length on the wagons during the 50's.
It was very small and actually placed in one of the wagon numbers.
I will check to see if I have a clear enough photo to illustrate.
Dom

10 May, 2011 09:05
Hal Guyon said...

1946 Bob.

10 May, 2011 09:26
Anonymous said...

props 22'

10 May, 2011 15:56
Anonymous said...

After how many years of not having loading information on wagons, what caused the change in practice?

11 May, 2011 10:10
Anonymous said...

Ringling had used the same numbering system for years as to wagons and to which dept had which wagons. After the draft stock was replaced after the 1938 season, wagons and their loads started to change. They had in their pool of wagons in 1939 the fine wagons built by Red Forbes when the Barnes show didn't go out. This was when they started to have wagons and their numbers changed around. When they started to replace the wooden wheels with the rubber duals the drop frame wagons wouldn't work with out a lot of modification. They had to rebuilt the wagon and add a wheelhouse for the tires to fit as they had to be wider. Most drop frame wagons had narrow bodies with the wheels out from under the rear of the wagon. Almost all of the drop frames had outside racks for carrying loads. When studying Ringling wagons, you see almost all the drop frame wagons gone during this period. Then with the loss of more baggage wagons during the Hartford fire, wagons and their numbers were again switched around between depts and I am sure it caused a lot of headaches as they went over 20-25 years of dept-wagon numbers not changing and then have in 6 or 8 years a lot of change.
p.j.

11 May, 2011 22:10

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