Tuesday, May 10, 2011

From Jim Elliott #11


05-09-2011 12;44;52PM, originally uploaded by bucklesw1.

Posted by Buckles at 5/10/2011 05:35:00 AM

11 comments:

Hal Guyon said...

Cookhouse water wagon, the bottom half was a tank and I think the top carried the wood burning stoves. If I`m wrong, please let me know.

10 May, 2011 09:30
Ole Whitey said...

You notice a couple of these (# 57 and this one) are still on hard rubber. How long did that last over there?

10 May, 2011 11:55
Hal Guyon said...

Dave, I know they had hard rubber on the giraffe wagons through to the time they stopped using them. Bob McDougal once told me that they kept the hard rubber on them because the phneumatic tires would sometimes blow out and would jar the animal. I`ve seen tires blow out on some carnival wagons while loading & unloading when they would scrap the gunnells of the flats.

10 May, 2011 13:02
Ole Whitey said...

Thanks, Hal.

10 May, 2011 14:39
Anonymous said...

The wood burning stoves went into wagon #3 as they would be too heavy to left up. Also, I would think they would top off the water tank for tomorrow's town and it would be alot of weight. The stoves used in the cookhouse sat on railroad track iron. Jacks for the kitchen tables and other large items went in the top of this wagon. Only the top doors opened on this wagon.
They kept the hard rubber tires on the giraffe wagons because they didn't need dual phneumatic tires because of the light load. Ringling used single phneumatic tires on a couple of wagons one year only. With duals, if you cut the outside tire (which happened as Hal said on the gunnells,etc.) you can still roll the inside tire on a block and pull the cut wheel and tire off with out using a jack, which can be a pain on the deck of a flat car or a dark street.
p.j.

10 May, 2011 15:52
Hal Guyon said...

Thanks P.J. After looking into this I discovered that it was the Sparks Circus where I read that they loaded the stoves on the top of the water wagon. I wasen`t sure if RBBB did it or not, that`s why I asked if I was wrong. So now I have 2 stories as to why the giraffe wagon had hard rubber wheels, both make sense to me.

10 May, 2011 20:23
Anonymous said...

lift up, not left up.
lol, spell check wouldn't help me with that one. p.j.

10 May, 2011 23:51
Richard Reynolds said...

RBBB used steel tired wheels on the giraffe wagons through 1944.

11 May, 2011 10:50
Hal guyon said...

Richard, When you say steel tired wheels you`re talking about wooden spoked steel tired wheels, right ?

11 May, 2011 21:58
Anonymous said...

Giraffe wagons had sunburst wooden spoke steel tired wheels before the hard rubber wheels were added.

12 May, 2011 10:05
Anonymous said...

Didn't this wagon go to the Circus Hall of Fame in Sarasota and from there to Peru?

12 May, 2011 10:58

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