Thursday, September 03, 2009

John Robinson 1923 #11


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Posted by Buckles at 9/03/2009 05:31:00 AM

12 comments:

J.C. Hall said...

I Got to know Abe as he would make his way to the State Fair of Tex. for the Dr.Pepper circus for many years for Gil Gray. Abe talked a lot about his time spent on movie lots during his Keystone Cops era.
Gil always said he was a good old show bum; a great compliment if you knew Mr.Gray. However I never new he was of the John Robinson alumni.
Gil had quite a group back then. Gene Randall,Harold Simmons, Chester + Joe Sherman,
Lawrence Cross,Billy Burk,and Abe,were regulars at the Dr Pepper circus for many years. Gil would always say to me to make sure we have parking spots for our "Funny Little Fellows", his name for the "Alley".What a great group of gents.

03 September, 2009 08:53
Ole Whitey said...

Abe and young Clyde Beatty worked a stunt with the hippo Victor on Gollmar in 1922; possibly they were still doing it when they came to the Robinson show. It was done on the track as a walk-around gag and involved the hippo biting Abe on the tush.

03 September, 2009 11:28
J.C. Hall said...

How Old was Beatty in 1922?. He must been about a teenager?

03 September, 2009 12:43
Chic Silber said...

Beatty was born on June 10th of 02

so he he would have been either

19 or 20 in 22

03 September, 2009 13:42
Ole Whitey said...

Unless of course you believe his mother and his sisters, which would make him 18 or 19 during that tour.

03 September, 2009 14:07
Chic Silber said...

Anything you say Whitey

As I recall he is still dead

History is an art not a science

03 September, 2009 17:44
J.C. Hall said...

I thought Beatty was around 55 or 56 in 1961 ?. That was around the last time I saw him when I was a punk kid.
That would put him closer to Mr.Whitey estimate.??????

03 September, 2009 18:22
Wade G. Burck said...

Chic,
Partially right. "Circus history" is an art, not a science.
Wade Burck

03 September, 2009 21:29
Chic Silber said...

So J C with either DOB he would

have been 57 or 58 at the start

of the 61 season in March in

Commack when I was on the #1

spotlight (as a 1st of May)

03 September, 2009 21:59
Roger Smith said...

In regard to Clyde Beatty's birthyear, we look at the fact that his widow put it on his marker as 1902, as did the International Genealogical Index.

04 September, 2009 01:56
Anonymous said...

Grave markers and obituaries are among the least reliable sources of information in historical research to establish a birth date. They are typically scripted by those that were only told about the birth; they weren't present for it. Even the subject of the birth isn't the best source; they were age "0" or about nine months, if you prefer. The birth mother would be in a position to have the best knowledge of the matter.

Dave Hale was once asked how he knew the age of his old tortise, which was described as 100 years old. He told the lady that he was there when it was born. She reached the end of the petting zoo before realizing the implications of what he told her.

04 September, 2009 09:19
Roger Smith said...

When an event, such as a birth, a marriage, or a death, is documented and recorded at the time of the event, it is done officially and duly set down in the books. Then someone comes along and says, no, it all happened a year later. How the hell does that happen? A year later?

Grave markers and obituaries in the 20th century were no longer the stuff of legend. Registration took place at the time, and people indeed were there to make proper note of it, inclusive of city, county and state authorities. All you need to do it revisit your civics class, or inquire of those who are our on-the-job records keepers.

12 September, 2009 22:41

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