Also, it looks like old canvas tacked to the inside of the truck body to keep from scraping up the side poles. You see old canvas tacked to the inside of canvas wagons sometimes to make it easier to push the bales in and out of and from snagging on a board.
In this scene in the movie, as the roll of canvas is pulled off of the wagon, the weight of the canvas on the ends of the poles, causes several of the poles to lift up and go tumbling over the side of the wagon in every direction. You see men jumping out of the way and then the shot cuts to another scene. This always appeared to me to be very dangerous and seemed like a definite design flaw in the procedure. Has anyone else ever noticed this? And was anything ever done to eliminate these poles from being thrown every which way? Did the show care if someone got knocked over by the poles, or were canvasmen considered a dime a dozen and easily replaceable? This small snipit of the film has always intriqued me and I just wondered if anybody had an opinion about this? Thanks! Neil cockerline, Minneapolis, MN
Someone once told me that since they used a 5 pole Big Top with the menagerie being in the end, that the menagerie canvas truck was used to haul the Big Top side poles Does anyone know if this is correct ? I belive that`s what showing in this picture.
Since this was the first set up of the season that rigging bundle might have been tossed on this wagon as an afterthought. I'm sure this wasn't the daily unloading proceedure. However while loading I've seen things sawed off so you could close the door.
This looks like the old menagerie canvas truck with the side poles loaded in it. Note the top rails of the truck bed is round 4" pipe instead of 4x4 angel iron. This was done to cut down on corners for the canvas or loose ropes to hang up on when loading or unloading. This bunble of rope and cable would have gone in the stake and chain wagons in the old days, along with the bigtop rigging jacks, mud blocks, etc. Maybe the reason why this truck body still had the canvas tacked to the inside from when it carried menagerie canvas. p.j.
Neil, In 1946, in Beloit, 3 busloads from the Chicago missions showed up with new crewmen. Wasn't long before there were fights and the sheriff showed up and took some of them to jail, but the rest stayed, at least for a meal. In answer to yout question, yes, workers(?) were were dime a dozen in those days. Bob Kitto
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notice the RB logo on the back of tractor. don't recall seeing this used before.
Also, it looks like old canvas tacked to the inside of the truck body to keep from scraping up the side poles. You see old canvas tacked to the inside of canvas wagons sometimes to make it easier to push the bales in and out of and from snagging on a board.
In this scene in the movie, as the roll of canvas is pulled off of the wagon, the weight of the canvas on the ends of the poles, causes several of the poles to lift up and go tumbling over the side of the wagon in every direction. You see men jumping out of the way and then the shot cuts to another scene. This always appeared to me to be very dangerous and seemed like a definite design flaw in the procedure. Has anyone else ever noticed this? And was anything ever done to eliminate these poles from being thrown every which way? Did the show care if someone got knocked over by the poles, or were canvasmen considered a dime a dozen and easily replaceable? This small snipit of the film has always intriqued me and I just wondered if anybody had an opinion about this? Thanks!
Neil cockerline, Minneapolis, MN
Someone once told me that since they used a 5 pole Big Top with the menagerie being in the end, that the menagerie canvas truck was used to haul the Big Top side poles Does anyone know if this is correct ? I belive that`s what showing in this picture.
Since this was the first set up of the season that rigging bundle might have been tossed on this wagon as an afterthought.
I'm sure this wasn't the daily unloading proceedure.
However while loading I've seen things sawed off so you could close the door.
This looks like the old menagerie canvas truck with the side poles loaded in it. Note the top rails of the truck bed is round 4" pipe instead of 4x4 angel iron. This was done to cut down on corners for the canvas or loose ropes to hang up on when loading or unloading. This bunble of rope and cable would have gone in the stake and chain wagons in the old days, along with the bigtop rigging jacks, mud blocks, etc. Maybe the reason why this truck body still had the canvas tacked to the inside from when it carried menagerie canvas.
p.j.
Note George Werner behind the wagon in his familiar hat.
Neil,
In 1946, in Beloit, 3 busloads from the Chicago missions showed up with new crewmen. Wasn't long before there were fights and the sheriff showed up and took some of them to jail, but the rest stayed, at least for a meal. In answer to yout question, yes, workers(?) were were dime a dozen in those days.
Bob Kitto
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