Wednesday, January 11, 2006
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Posted by Buckles at 1/11/2006 06:30:00 AM
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Oh contraire mon frare. The pictures are great! Are there any of Slivers Oakley, Spader Johnson, "Daddy" Rice, Joe Petland, Johnny Patterson, Billy Wallett, Dan Gardner, John Gossin, Charles Seeley, John Lalow, Billie Burke, Whimsical Walker, Al Miaco, Jules Turnour or any other of the clowns from that era?
Pat Cashin
http://www.patcashin clownblog.blogspot.com
Not in this layout but I have,as most collectors do, pictures of Rice, Oakley and Johnson.
Great pictures Buckles. None of us want to admit we knew these people personally. But sex and violence is OK too. I can remember that. I think
Enough of the dirty words Pat.
Richard Reynolds says - - - Note the odd white spots in the center of othe larger dark ones. I cannot recall seeing this on other giraffes. There are sevearl other photos of this or another RB giraffe with the same spot pattern.
Richard and giraffe fanciers: Checked Hoofed Mammals of the World by Mochi and Carter. 12 subspecies of giraffe patterns pictured, none with the pattern in the photo. Could it be a Giraffa camelopardalis ringlingi ?
Saw those odd spots on a Nubian Giraffe in a zoo collection -- I think in either Belgium or Holland -- in the early 1980s.
Either any of the above, or we have the fine hand of Roland Butler creating another subspecie of giraffe, and good for him if he did.
Re the giraffe with the strange white spots in the center of darker ones, Giraffe expert Laurie Bingaman Lackey wrote Richard Reynolds as follows:
"Hi - giraffe are pretty darn variable. So much so, that it took DNA analysis to establish what we have in the States.
And some change color with age - I have a few in the population that are gradually getting really dark, and a few that are turning white.
One female loses the color in the center of her spots while pregnant, and then get darker again, so I'll assume hormonal.
Hagenbeck probably got them from East Africa, so could be Cape, Masai or Retic. But since the only two deep-water ports in those days were in Mombassa and in Walvis Bay, enormous numbers of animals literally walked to one or the other, and may be out-of-region, even though shipped from Kenya/Southern Africa.
Having said all that, I think this is a Nubian, Giraffa camelopardalis camelopardalis, and might have been exported through Cairo.
Large, regular-border spots and no pattern below the hocks."
I read in a circus book,that
Barnum &Bailey show hired
AndreaS Zingraber who was the Giraffe superintent for many years,while the show was touring either Austria or Hungary around the turn of the Century.
He died in Sarasota Florida in 1931.
I remeber reading in the book THE WAYS OF THE CIRCUS by George Conklin who was th menagerie superindent of the Barnum&Bailey circus,that one of the Barnum&Bailey giraffes
died on the ship voyage to England
in the late 19 century.They gave its carcass to the London Museum of Natural History and they mounted its skin and reportly it was on display there(still?)I think its name was"Daisey".
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