Tuesday, January 17, 2006

Comment from Richard Reynolds



Here is a comment from Richard about the Pigmy elephant post on 1/02/06.








John and Buckles - -

First off , the 1936 photo is one of Roland Butler's frauds - -a very good one at that. I'll bet he used a genuine photo of natives sitting on forest elephants. He blew it up and took the "enlarged" natives and pasted them back onto the backs of the elephants in the smaller pic. Remember, he did much the same with rhino Mary and Theol Nelson in 1935.

Below are excerpts from Wayne Jackson's and Erik Block's comprehensive and detailed paper about forest elephants, the so called pigmy elephants, Loxodonta cyclotis, now held to be a separate species - -not just a forest version of the bigger bush elephants. Erik Block of Antwerp zoo sent it to me.

The paper represents a ton of research. It details all cyclotis known to have been exhibited around the world from the time of the Romans. Most of what he says about the RBBB animals he got from stuff I have put together over the years. I have added a few parenthetical comments here and there.

I do not know where he got the idea that Sudan was picked up along the way from Gangala-na-Bodio, Belgian Congo to Juba, Sudan- -the long march. I figure she came out of Gangala with the others. I do not think there is any doubt that Sudan was a common bush elephant (or perhaps a hybrid). The differences from Puqua were quite noticeable when you saw them together - -alive or in photos.

Puqua was the very first African elephant of any kind that I can recall seeing. That was on RBBB, here in Atlanta, on Sunday afternoon, November 3, 1940 - - - a beautiful warm sunny autumn day. My Dad and I went to the showgrounds to watch the set up in progress. [I can still recall that while the big top that year was "new" blue with red sidewalls, the menagerie was still plain canvas that year - khaki colored by the time it got here.]

The elephants had already been installed in the menagerie but were brought outside in small groups one after the other to water at big drums set up for the purpose. A big crowd gathered to see that. Lo and behold here came one, smaller that the others, but with huge ears and long impressive white tusks. I did not recall seeing that before, and it sort of spooked me (I was 6 years old). I got up pretty close to her. My Dad said it was a pigmy elephant from Africa. When we went to the matinee the next afternoon, I vividly recall looking for her. She came into the big top for the elephant act but only stood to the side while others went through their paces.

I know I must have seen Puqua and Sudan here in '37, '38' and '39 but I do not recall them from those years.

Puqua's mate Sudan was not here with the show in 1940. She had been sent back to quarters from the Garden at the start of the season. [She had gotten sick.] So I only saw Puqua in '40. The next year (1941) she was dead from the poisoning before I could get to the second day's matinee. I can recall as if it were yesterday my Dad's reading aloud from the paper that "my" Puqua was one of the first to die from the poison.

I recall seeing Sudan in 1942, '43 and '45. I did not see her in '41 because the elephant part of the menagerie was roped off as the vets and elephant men struggled to administer antidotes to the herd. I could look down the picket line and saw a lot of men and equipment all along the way in front of the elephants. But you could not walk through there. In '45 one of the elephant guys in the menagerie took me up to Sudan after I had surprised him by specifically asking about her and recalling that Puqua had died here. I guess not many towners seemed as knowledgeable, particularly a 12-year old.

Until I saw Buckles' comments I had not known that Congo died from a parasitical infection. He was a really beautiful example of cyclotis - best I've seen in America in person or in photos.

You may want to put this on the blog.

Richard


And in the Blog it is.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thanks Shannon for getting this on the front page where others will have a chance to read it. An excellent piece by Richard Reynolds.

Anonymous said...

MR. Woodcock, I was wondering why dont more of the circus historians and particularly elephant historians log on this site and comment more.
I know Bob Cline comments here every now and then.
I believe Dick Flint is also elephant historian?
Hopefully you could contact individuals such as
Stuart Thayer and others to post there comments

Anonymous said...

Are you referring to Congo the pygmy elephant of the Bronx zoo?
Wasnt he shot by the famous taxidermist Carl Akeley?
Due to the fact the elephant was suffering,particularly from a malformed leg.

Buckles said...

When I first started sending out pictures from my collection a year and a half ago, I simply gathered eMail addresses and sent them individually.
Before long it built up to 300 people and I had to click all the little numbers 3oo times for each picture,then one day AOL shut me down thinking I was running some sort of commercial enterprise, I think 250 is the limit.
Anyway my son set up this Blog Site and it is certainly easier since the recipiants click on to me.
On the other hand some people tell me they don't respond since there is some sort form to fill out and information required which they don't want to get involved with. I can understand this, I certainly wouldn't.
This may come as a surprise to you but many Circus Fans have pointed out that my Dad and I are unique exceptions since the majority of show folks can't remember what show they were on 5 years ago and could care less.

Buckles said...

I rambled a bit and never did answer your question. I sometimes rag the Ken & Nicole Show a bit and most circus people live in a fantasy world thinking that one day they will come to their senses and give them a job.
Appearing on this Blog Site is not a good way to enhance their chances.

Anonymous said...

The taxonomy of the pygmy elephants is pretty fascinating. Noack described Loxodonta pumilio -- cross described as L fransseni -- in 1906 based on a single individual in the Bronx collection, but it was always a questionable designation. Debruyne, Van Holt et al, as well as others showed that DNA made the obvious the case for amending Loxodonta africana cyclotis to Loxodonta cyclotis. Where I get confused is differentiating between L cyclotis and historic examples of L africana thought to have been suffering from dwarfism? I think there were several animals in the Bronx collection of the 30's described as dwarf bush elephants -- were they really forest elephants?

Ben

Anonymous said...

Buckles, Can you ask your friend Richard a question for me? Does WATCHING elephants for 30 years make you an expert and give a person licence to tell other people what to do about elephants. It seems to me the peo[ple who feed, water, medicate, train and live and travel with elephants for five generations are the experts. I have WATCHED elephants all my adult life and no way would I ever try to tell someone how to care for their elephants. Unless I was trying to raise money for a nonprofit who talks big but dummer than a post in real life.

Buckles said...

Richard who?

Anonymous said...

Reynolds or any wise real elephant historian who really WORKED with elephants. Hands on work. Not watching from afar.

GaryHill said...

After we helped Buckles deliver the herd to CW in early 74. Donald Bale and myself headed up the the New Jersey park underconstruction to be, Great Adventure. I was lucky enought to be send to Uganda to escort 25 baby africans back to NJ. One of the elephants was a much differant looking specimen as it had a very narrow face and it's ears were very round with no folds. I will look for a picture of her. I have many on a old Super 8 that I transfered to VHS. I felt she fell into the Forest or Pygmy species or she was a freak? Gary