Thursday, August 28, 2008

Fred Alispaw #11


Scan10628, originally uploaded by bucklesw1.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Why the placement in a system box car? Perhaps they feared the regular bull car was too confining or unsafe for the baby? Where did the birth actually take place? Maybe this was the "birthing chamber," too?

Buckles said...

I can't make out the inscription, something about California.
To me this would indicate "Baby Hutch" the first of four calves from "Alice" and "Snyder" born 5/25/12 at Salinas.
This does look like a system box car which seems logical under the circumstances. Unfortunately the calf only lived 42 days since the mother would have nothing to do with it.
"Hutch" died 6/6/12 at Pendleton, Oregon.

Anonymous said...

Maybe?:

BABY ELEPHANT
BORN IN MONTEREY
CAL OF SELLS-FLOTO
SHOW 9/20 HOURS OLD

Wade G. Burck said...

Anonymous,
This may be a real stretch considering there were 300 year old elephants back around then, but I wonder how many babys "born" were actually "captured" and "Mama Betty and Baby Bop" was a fairly successful marketing tool? I think "maybe" is a pretty safe place to be on a lot of "old" history.
Wade Burck

Anonymous said...

Forepaugh, Barnum & Bailey, Ringling Bros., Walter L. Main and others all tried the faux "born here" baby elephant ruse. Those that were actually born here have largely been ferreted out and confirmed or refuted by Richard J. Reynolds III, who found the mid-1870s birth on Howes Great London and also enlightened everyone about the two bonafide births in Baraboo at the turn of the century. The later ones on Sells-Floto are also well documented. Richard may have more in this line ere long.

Anonymous said...

Inscription:
BABY ELEPHANT
BORN MONTEREY
CAL OF SELLS-FLOTO
SHOWS /20 HOURS OLD

Adaline

Anonymous said...

There is a series of photos showing "Snyder" breeding "Alice" with Capt. Alispaw holding the lady in place, so we know there was breeding in this herd. Also it is well documented that Floto "Alice" was removed from the road and placed at the Liberty Park Zoo in Salt Lake City, Utah to give birth to her final calf "Prince Utah" (April 29, 1918). The thinking was to give her a different and more relaxed surrounding as to not repeat the unfortunate events of her previous three calves.