Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Clyde Beatty-Cole Bros. Circus 1980


BEATTY HONCHOS - 1980, originally uploaded by bucklesw1.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wilson Storey, John Pugh, Jerry Collins and..??....

Buckles said...

Tim Stinson, a former Ringling Show promoter where he was often referred to as "Tiny Tim" but he appears to tower above everyone else in this picture.

Anonymous said...

Tim Stinson, is the last gentleman

Buckles said...

On that subject, some of you may recall that Art Ricker (who knew where all the bodies were buried)promised some pictures but so far has been a no-show.

Anonymous said...

....Gentleman?
I've heard him called a LOT of things, but never THAT!!!

Anonymous said...

This quartet wasn't smiling after that 1980 Winter Tour.

Harry Kingston said...

Years ago I brought up Tim Stinsons name when visiting Clyde Beatty-Cole Bros. and Bridgette Pugh told me they had no love for him after the winter tour disaster.

Anonymous said...

And what a disaster. I was there. The cast and crew outnumbered the audience in every town. One reason had to be that we were day-and-dating either Carter or Reagan on their campaign trails--guess where the TV crews went. Our last town, Winston-Salem, wanted an astronomical fee for their building, and Jerry Collins said, "Bring that son-of-a-bitch home."

One story had "a certain promoter" split and run up equally astronomical amounts, absconding with the show's American Express card.

Anonymous said...

Winter tour?

Anonymous said...

I was also on the indoor tour and was asked to be Perf. Director and indeed was. I believe the failure could be spread around to all parties involved, starting with Tom Scallon [Ice shows, Harlem Globetrotter, etc.]. The show was poorly formed for building operations with sleepers and nasty looking cookhouse trailor obvious outside buildings and trailors allaround. Looked pretty shabby. On Ringling they load em all up on the Gilley bus and haul them away until the next day. Tim and Dave Mobbs tried to do their jobs, but it was obvious the left hand didn't know what the right was doing. When Scallon was needed he was not around. Very frustrating for all involved. It was supposed to go back out again in January into western cold climates and clear heADS FINALLY PREVAILED. All I can say is that I was there.

Anonymous said...

Wilson Storey was a fine man to do business with and a gentleman in every way. We all new him as Willy. He booked me numerous times and was always a man of his word. Obviously a very high intelligent individual. He rarely spoke of his Alfred Court years. He was one of those great people that was always WITH IT AND FOR IT. There are a few people in this business, small in stature that I refer to as GIANTS in the field. He was one of them.

Harry Kingston said...

Mr. Johnny,
I agree with you all the way on Willy Storey. As there will never be another like him in show buiness.
I always ask questions as how are us fan going to learn about how it was without asking the circus greats about the way it was.
I asked Willy about his days with Court. He talked about the great acts and the one he did and told me he was there when May Kovar was killed.
I even have a contract from the Wilson Storey talent agency where he and I signed for my circus collection for Clyde Beatty Cole Bros.
Willy and his wife were always very nice to us fans on Sells and Gray Circus.
I always took 16mm movies when I visited a circus and always asked permission first. I was shooting on Sells and Gray and I think alex Linton?? the sword swallower gave me pure hell for filming him. I asked him who was he working for himself or Sells and Gray?? I said Willy gave me permission.
I looked around and Willy and his wife were really laughing.
I met Jerry Collins as he flew in to Beatty Cole where it was playing near to Beaumont, Tx. and as a fan I figured that something was up for him to come on the show.
A real nice person and I have the program he signed for me and sat right next to him at the circus.
Harry

Anonymous said...

I was also on the full '81 canvas tour, which really took a beating by the time we got into Texas. One error was booking Waco for 3 days. I graduated high school there and knew Waco would not support any show that long. RBB sat out at the Coliseum there for 4 days in 1970, and died like a snakebit hound. Jerry Collins flew in with a rumored million dollars in cash in a briefcase. My late uncle, John Trenam, was the tax attorney for John North, Art Concello, and Mr. Collins, so I knew more than I was supposed to about how much money Collins had, but it was said by this time in '81, he was rapidly wearying of playing the show's rich uncle.

When we got into Galveston, we couldn't get on the lot. A near-panic ensued in obtaining another one. The show couldn't afford to lose a town. Talk about Willy Storey being with it and for it, he stood out on the road waiting to get the first word on new arrows being up. He wouldn't leave. I walked out and visited with him for two hours. He seemed to enjoy passing the time, and answered all my questions about his and his uncle's acts, advanced animal caretaking, and general circus. He was visibly relieved when Eddie Firlein returned from getting us arrowed in, and thus the day was saved.

Harry Kingston said...

Mr. Roger,
Do you remember where the new lot was in Galveston??? Most shows play out by the airport.
I remember you outside of Hoovers cage act.
They played Nederland, Texas by our airport as that is between Beaumont and Port Arthur, Texas.
You also date and dated our fair with the Bill Hames show carnival
going the second largest in the state of Texas.
Harry Hammond told me they did not even make the media money back.
I painted Jimmy James small elephant tub he stood on announcing the show as it looked so shabby.
I think circus Vargas played Beaumont before you all as alot of route switching was going on then between the shows as the great circus war was going on.
One year and it might have been 1981 as both Vargas and Beatty played Galveston as one show was there and the other was coming in on the same freeway to play another 2 day stand.
I think Vargas was so scared that someone from the Beatty show was going to sneak over and damage his tent??? And from all that no one made any money from the battle.
Great days of the circus.
Yes, and Waco for 3 days, just nuts.
Where was Floyd King when you needed him.
Harry

Anonymous said...

There was NO ONE in this "World," Circus or otherwise, who could top Willy Storey's honesty and integrity. I worked with him for 5 years in the Beatty ticket Wagon. I am fortunate to have learned from him!
:-)
Cindy Potter

Anonymous said...

To Harry Kingston: I took snapshots of us sitting in Temple, Texas, the morning after closing, awaiting word on the 237-mile jump into Galveston. At last we rolled, only to be denied the original lot. Cookhouse was set up for us as we waited for another lot. We were so weary, I don't recall where in town we finally showed. Route Card #9 has us routed then to Texas City, Huntsville, Bryan, Port Arthur and Orange to close a disastrous Texas run.

No one tried to sabotage Vargas, but he must have been brought to face his limitations, and I'll leave it at that.

My heart sunk when Waco showed up on the route. Elvis was the hottest act in showbusiness in 1957, but at the 10,000-seat Heart O' Texas Coliseum there, he drew a mere 3,000, when he had been selling out all major venues,to give you an idea about Waco. Incidentally, Hubert Castle worked his wire on that show for Col. Parker.

Bobby Stoner said...

I would love to know how to reach Tim Stinson. I was a friend of his such a long time ago.
I would appreciate any information anyone has. I am Bobby Stoner and can be reached at BobbyStoner@Bellsouth.net. My home number in Fort Lauderdale is (954) 987-6078.
Thanks so much!