In the United States, according to the USDA now, the elephant dies, the tusks go with him. David Meeks, in upstate South Carolina found out the hard way. Bob
Isn't that the stupidist thing USDA could do. Just inviting grave robbing!!!!!!! I wonder daily what they will think of next to hurass animal people. Bet they stay up nights trying to figure what stupid thing to do to us next!!!! They need to get back to growing beans and corn like they are supposed to do.
I believe that what Mr Meeks experienced was the law as interpreted by that USDA office. The laws are expressly vague so that they can be interpreted AND ENFORCED as is seen fit at that time in that circumstance.All it takes is a judge that agrees with the inspector at that time.According to a different USDA inspector, patroling the Canadian border,I was told that if you apply for permits to posses body parts you can do so, but that an exibitors permit allows you to posses LIVE animals only. Different inspector,different interpretation. I believe you will find that most animal welfare laws on the federal,state and even international levels are written in just such an ambiguous manner.After all these laws are written by lawyers, intent on filling their pockets "interpreting" these laws in front of judges for very fat fees.
Larry, Amen to that. Ask Tim Frisco about the usda inspector who hung around a circus for the whole day snooping and finally introduced himself. Not according to their own regs. The inspector is supposed to check in when he arrives.
Todays "Dallas Morning News" has an article featureing Doug Terranova, and his animals he keeps on his land in Kaufman county. It mentions James Hall also. Three other people along with them are also mentioned. The article is about keeping wild animals in the county. " The Dallas Morning News" has a video tour of Dougs place in case anyone is interested? Go to DallasNews.com/Extra
Did this inspector have paper work to prove who he was, a person working for the proper athorities. Is it legal for these persons to video a circus show? Where they from imogration? Don't these people need a warrent to do these type of inspections? Do we just blindly let them roam the property? I think we ought to require more proof from people who want to INSPECT!!!!! Verify who they are before you turn them loose. We do have some rights. Who signed the paper work to give these inspectors the right of way? Don't cut them any slack, they are not going to cut you any for sure.
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Who keeps the ivory when an elephant dies? What can be done with it by the owner?
In the United States, according to the USDA now, the elephant dies, the tusks go with him. David Meeks, in upstate South Carolina found out the hard way.
Bob
Isn't that the stupidist thing USDA could do. Just inviting grave robbing!!!!!!! I wonder daily what they will think of next to hurass animal people. Bet they stay up nights trying to figure what stupid thing to do to us next!!!! They need to get back to growing beans and corn like they are supposed to do.
I believe that what Mr Meeks experienced was the law as interpreted by that USDA office.
The laws are expressly vague so that they can be interpreted AND ENFORCED as is seen fit at that time in that circumstance.All it takes is a judge that agrees with the inspector at that time.According to a different USDA inspector, patroling the Canadian border,I was told that if you apply for permits to posses body parts you can do so, but that an exibitors permit allows you to posses LIVE animals only.
Different inspector,different interpretation. I believe you will find that most animal welfare laws on the federal,state and even international levels are written in just such an ambiguous manner.After all these laws are written by lawyers, intent on filling their pockets "interpreting" these laws in front of judges for very fat fees.
Larry, Amen to that. Ask Tim Frisco about the usda inspector who hung around a circus for the whole day snooping and finally introduced himself. Not according to their own regs. The inspector is supposed to check in when he arrives.
Todays "Dallas Morning News" has an article featureing Doug Terranova, and his animals he keeps on his land in Kaufman county. It mentions James Hall also. Three other people along with them are also mentioned. The article is about keeping wild animals in the county. " The Dallas Morning News" has a video tour of Dougs place in case anyone is interested? Go to DallasNews.com/Extra
Just had an inspector video the whole show then do an inspection at 9:30 after the show. SNEEKY!
Did this inspector have paper work to prove who he was, a person working for the proper athorities. Is it legal for these persons to video a circus show? Where they from imogration? Don't these people need a warrent to do these type of inspections? Do we just blindly let them roam the property? I think we ought to require more proof from people who want to INSPECT!!!!! Verify who they are before you turn them loose. We do have some rights. Who signed the paper work to give these inspectors the right of way? Don't cut them any slack, they are not going to cut you any for sure.
Richard Reynolds asks - -
What happened to Tommy's (King Tusks")tusks?
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