tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post112946113174680447..comments2023-10-30T06:50:17.036-04:00Comments on Buckles Blog: Poetic License #2Buckleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06114738213931098664noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post-1130447394844400802005-10-27T17:09:00.000-04:002005-10-27T17:09:00.000-04:00What became of the O'Brien elephantand later Cole ...What became of the O'Brien elephant<BR/>and later Cole Bros. elephant<BR/>in the 1870's<BR/>"Queen Anne"?<BR/>That was the first elephant trained by George Conklin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post-1130022644934010842005-10-22T19:10:00.000-04:002005-10-22T19:10:00.000-04:00O'BRIEN QUEEN1870 J.N. French Circus1871-87 J...O'BRIEN QUEEN<BR/><BR/>1870 J.N. French Circus<BR/>1871-87 John "Pogey" O'Brien Circus<BR/>1888-90 Clark Bros. Circus<BR/>1891-92 Ringling Bros. Circus<BR/>1893-95 George W. "Popcorn" Hall<BR/>1896-01 Harris Nickel Plate<BR/>1902-05 Sells & Downs Circus<BR/>1906-09 Cole Bros. Circus <BR/> (Martin Downs)<BR/>1910 Frank A. Robbins CircusBuckleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06114738213931098664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post-1130015937526347392005-10-22T17:18:00.000-04:002005-10-22T17:18:00.000-04:00Then there was the Sells Bros. Queen of the Ringli...Then there was the Sells Bros. Queen of the Ringling-Barnum&Bailey Show.<BR/>She died from exposure while in the boxcar at Madison Square Garden<BR/>March 22.1930.It was unuaslly cold and they had not heated up the building when the elephants arrived.<BR/>According to George"Deafy"Denman,<BR/>Queen was 62 years old in 1926,which made her 66 years old in 1930.According to him,Queen was<BR/>not only the oldest elephant in the herd ,she was also the smartest elephant in the herd and still performing.<BR/>His three favorite elephants were"Old John","Babe" and Queen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post-1130015246754776872005-10-22T17:07:00.000-04:002005-10-22T17:07:00.000-04:00What about the"Queen" that was executed at the Fra...What about the"Queen" that was executed at the Frank Robbins WQ/William Bartel Wild Animal farm at Jersey City,NJ in November 1910?<BR/>She had formely been with the Cole Bros. Show<BR/>Reportly(according to which newspaper account you read)<BR/>She had killed 4 or as many as 10 men in her career.<BR/>She weighed 8400 pounds.<BR/>They killed her with a dose of 12 grains of cyanide of potassium contained in apples.It took 45 minutes for her to die.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post-1129845605956036612005-10-20T18:00:00.000-04:002005-10-20T18:00:00.000-04:00The "Queen" in the drawing went back to 1874 with ...The "Queen" in the drawing went back to 1874 with the Barnum Show.<BR/>According to my notes "Queen Victoria" with HGL was an African.Buckleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06114738213931098664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post-1129842788989866712005-10-20T17:13:00.000-04:002005-10-20T17:13:00.000-04:00Was that Queen also aka Victoria(Queen Victoria)of...Was that Queen also aka Victoria(Queen Victoria)of the Howe's Great London show?,Before they joined up with Cooper&Bailey?<BR/>There have been other elephants named Queen of course in the late nineteenth century,<BR/>Queen Anne of the Cole Bros circus in the 1870's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post-1129841782350665902005-10-20T16:56:00.000-04:002005-10-20T16:56:00.000-04:00Yes,I have a newspaper article dated December 18th...Yes,I have a newspaper article dated December 18th 1888,concerning it.<BR/>Reportly Chief's carcass was to be sent the University of Pennsylvania(they do not appear to have the specimen now though).<BR/>His hide at one time was prepared and dispalyed in the big window at Tiffany's in NYC.<BR/>BTW The Barnum&Bailey Chief should not be confused with the <BR/>John Robinson show"Chief' famous for killing the boss animal man, John King at Charlotesville North Carolina in 1880.<BR/>That "Old Chief" was later donated to the Cincinnati Zoological Gardens were he was executed in December 1890(shot)That elephant was only about 26 years old..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post-1129674322150794822005-10-18T18:25:00.001-04:002005-10-18T18:25:00.001-04:00I have no reason to dispute your story about the e...I have no reason to dispute your story about the execution of "Chief" in Philadelphia. I have no record of him after 1887.<BR/>In my fathers files I have a letter from old time trainer Harry Parkhurst relating how he walked "Queen" and "Jess" from the Penn. RR site in Bunker Hill to the Wallace Qtrs. after their purchase from 4-Paw in 1891.<BR/>In those days Ben Wallace never carried many elephants with his show (Cook & Whitby). For example in 1892 he owned 8 elephants but four were leased out. "Gypsy" with Bartines Circus, "Jeanette" (African) with Frank J. Taylor, "Jess" with Sells & Rentfrew and "Queen" with Bob Hunting Circus. I have no further record of "Queen" after 1893.Buckleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06114738213931098664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post-1129674303963289262005-10-18T18:25:00.000-04:002005-10-18T18:25:00.000-04:00I have no reason to dispute your story about the e...I have no reason to dispute your story about the execution of "Chief" in Philadelphia. I have no record of him after 1887.<BR/>In my fathers files I have a letter from old time trainer Harry Parkhurst relating how he walked "Queen" and "Jess" from the Penn. RR site in Bunker Hill to the Wallace Qtrs. after their purchase from 4-Paw in 1891.<BR/>In those days Ben Wallace never carried many elephants with his show (Cook & Whitby). For example in 1892 he owned 8 elephants but four were leased out. "Gypsy" with Bartines Circus, "Jeanette" (African) with Frank J. Taylor, "Jess" with Sells & Rentfrew and "Queen" with Bob Hunting Circus. I have no further record of "Queen" after 1893.Buckleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06114738213931098664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post-1129665251258667922005-10-18T15:54:00.000-04:002005-10-18T15:54:00.000-04:00BTW you can see the mounted hide of Baby Bridgepor...BTW you can see the mounted hide of Baby Bridgeport at the Barnum Museum in Brideport Ct.<BR/>But from what I understand they had the hide refurbished a few years ago,and all the wrinkles were ironed out of the hide!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post-1129662495734544982005-10-18T15:08:00.000-04:002005-10-18T15:08:00.000-04:00Whatever became of Queen?I read that Addie Forepau...Whatever became of Queen?<BR/>I read that Addie Forepaugh had to execute Big Chief in Philadelphia<BR/>December 1888(he was choked to death by two elephants Basil and Bismark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8897242.post-1129658862561679152005-10-18T14:07:00.000-04:002005-10-18T14:07:00.000-04:00I was just reading an artical in Band Wagon and th...I was just reading an artical in Band Wagon and this caught my eye. No one elephant could be half the grief of a hundred unattached females. I will figure out why this struck me as funny later.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com